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    Aldar777hap Guest

    Default New California declares independence.

    SACRAMENTO — With the reading of their own version of a Declaration of Independence, founders of the state of New California took the first steps to what they hope will eventually lead to statehood. CBS Sacramento reports they don't want to leave the United States, just California.
    "Well, it's been ungovernable for a long time. High taxes, education, you name it, and we're rated around 48th or 50th from a business climate and standpoint in California," said founder Robert Paul Preston.
    The state of New California would incorporate most of the state's rural counties, leaving the urban coastal counties to the current state of California.
    "There's something wrong when you have a rural county such as this one, and you go down to Orange County which is mostly urban, and it has the same set of problems, and it happens because of how the state is being governed and taxed," Preston said.
    Cal-exit? Meet the movement for California secession
    But unlike other separation movements in the past, the state of New California wants to do things by the book, citing Article 4, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution and working with the state legislature to get it done, similar to the way West Virginia was formed.
    "Yes. We have to demonstrate that we can govern ourselves before we are allowed to govern," said founder Tom Reed.
    And despite obstacles, doubters, and obvious long odds, the group stands united in their statehood dream.
    The group is organized with committees and a council of county representatives, but say it will take 10 to 18 months before they are ready to fully engage with the state legislature.
    This is not the first effort to split up California. In 2014, Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper submitted signatures to put a measure that would split California in six separate states.
    Interesting times. Though I doubt it will actually happen and as dumb as the name is. I'm all for it. New Cali.
    I feel like they made a point by saying "their own version of the constitution". Almost seems like the reporter is trying to cast some doubt.

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    Your thread title is false and clickbait. This is just one group, and there's been a lot of these proposals for decades.

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    AlejandraL Guest


    Yeah, I doubt this will happen. The Democratic party will do everything in it's power to fight it. Now, I think this could work; it would give the rural counties their own state and leave the more urbanized areas of California to be their own state. Sounds like a win-win. But I'm betting against it.

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    Alenaitalm Guest


    I was hoping they were becoming their own country.

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    Do you think the reporter was trying to cast doubt by saying "their own version of the constitution"?
    I mean why say "their own version" other than to suggest theirs is alternative to the real one?

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    Alexascix Guest


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